Hello Robert: When did you move to MA? How are you doing? My wife gave birth to a baby boy on May 27th. We named him Kedar. This eliminates us from joining the No Kidding! group. I find most zero population ideas is to stop immigration from non european countries. A friend of mine wrote an interesting article on this in the Mercury News - http://www.mercurycenter.com/premium/opinion/docs/people.htm Check it out. How is life in MA? Keep in touch. Sridhar *** Advanced Configurators for the Enterprise *** Sridhar K. Seshadri Selectica,Inc. Sr. Product Manager 2890 Zanker Road http://www.selectica.com/~sridhar Suite 101 Direct: 408-570-9717 San Jose, CA 95134 Main: 408-570-9700 Fax: 408-570-9728 ************ www.selectica.com ************