I e-mailed you about this before. news4.sucknews.com is quite slow. In fact, it is now even slower than the last time I complained. The average speed has gone down to 80 bytes/sec. I'm pretty certain that the problem is at your end. When I try "telnet news4.sucknews.com 119", while it takes a couple of seconds to get the "Connected to" message, it takes at least 20 seconds before the "200 Welcome to Corp-news" message comes up. Recall that I am not able to run "traceroute", and feel it wouldn't help anyway given the above results. Unless the throughput improves, I am going to cancel my service. sub #1545249