Boy, this presentation was incredibly biased. IMHO, I think having a central solution like Postini has a lot of downsides which weren't mentioned. For example, there was no mention of where their "data centers" were located and whether they are physically vulnerable (earthquake, etc.). Also, whether, if a particular hole is discovered in the infrastructure, some set of people could quickly take advantage of that before the hole is plugged up. Their broader ideas are very good, 'though -- I just don't like the implementation. The idea of having access to information of a number of spam-fighters can be really useful. I just personally like the peer-to-peer model (such as Cloudmark) better because it's more robust and more customizeable. (I think Cloudmark's implementation needs some work, too, 'though.) It seems like the domains-oriented service that Postini offers is so low-cost that they will probably be the long-term winners of this. OTOH, once a SPF or Domain Keys solution is implemented, such services will gradually become less desired and other home-grown solutions (probably peer-to-peer or RBL-oriented) will sprout.