- Group: Ethical Vegans
- Subject: The ‘Ethical Vegans’ STRATEGIC professional networking workgroup on LinkedIn is related to NONHUMANS AS PERSONS as a foundation for our being VEGANS in all areas of life
First, let me apologize for YOUR misunderstanding IF YOU THINK that the word 'vegan; in this group's title means it's a group for everyone on a vegan diet (no animal products). No, it's not; we're abolitionists - a working abolitionist group.
âEthical Vegansâ on LinkedIn is a strategic professional networking workgroup for vegans whose veganism is SPECIFICALLY (not tangentially) ethical â for explicitly ethical motivations.
>From you I need a statement (http://www.GMail.com/~Maynard.Clark) of your vegan purposes, that you are consistently vegan and that among your reasons are ethics regarding the wrongfulness of killing animals or exploiting them for food (that would include the wrongfulness of doing that for eggs or dairy - are you a subjectivist, or is that judgment held to be objective about the nature of how things are?). I will smile on abolitionists; I will consider others. I need a statement; none of us wants an âopen listâ for general discussion with non-vegans or those dietary vegans who are merely rawfooders for health reasons. Weâre a professional networking group to discuss the possibility of peacefully and creatively, brilliantly transforming the human infrastructure worldwide in ways that liberate animals and end their oppression as âfood animalsâ and thus prepare the way for the total adoption of vegan diets among all human beings as what will emerge as the only sensible choice for human nourishment.
Rational suasion is how weâre going to do this. The real debate takes place in the real world; we ought to talk constructively about how public discussions will ensue and how we can embolden ourselves to do better quality work for this future, not merely more passionate, energetic, or even angry work.
We needed an abolitionist list for those who consistently believe that all animal agriculture is wrong and should be totally abolished. That radical position would transform the pet food industry. Is that where you are, or is that too strict to describe you? www.AbolitionistApproach.org
We start with writings by Tom Regan and Gary Francione.
RELATED TO NONHUMANS AS PERSONS
We relate 'ethical vegan' and 'ethics' to nonhuman persons so that one's ethical decision to become vegan is on behalf of the personhood of those who could by some be treated as 'food animals' or other instruments.
The term 'vegan' should mean ALWAYS vegan, not a 'sometime vegan' or one who prefers vegan food or objects some of the time to some (or even all) uses of nonhuman persons, but who always objects to treating animals as means not persons.
The term 'ethical' may or may not include other moral positions; it must ALWAYS include ethical objections to using other persons (nonhuman OR human) for food, clothing, entertainment, science, or the like; it must take the position that all human beings CAN live consistently as vegans (on vegan diets) all the time(with or without assistance of scientific nutritional interventions, such as supplementary vitamins).
Further, for the purposes of this list, we are not content to create an online network of folks who are merely 'friendly' to us in the sense of social hospitality, nor are interested in exploring us as a possible market (there are other in-person and online venues for doing that, or exploring those issues, and the Internet is not currently the greatest venue for that, nor is it OUR purpose in setting up such a relational network).
Our groups where the quality of the conversation is at issue aren't always bettered by greater numbers . We - and animals - are always bettered when for any reason anyone, reduces use of, exploitation of, or market demand for the oppression of animals, nor does purism condition the market. But this venue's purpose is strategic thinking among those convinced of the moral wrongfulness of using any self-aware person-beings for any purpose not in accord with THEIR own free will.
Maynard
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