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FW: ossible farmerinthedell job offer
- To: noelle
- Subject: FW: ossible farmerinthedell job offer
- From: Robert <http://dummy.us.eu.org/robert>
- Date: Mon, 02 Sep 2013 15:06:02 -0700
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> From: Farrell Woods <http://www.comcast.net/~Farrell.Woods>
> Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2013 16:56:48 -0400
>
> On Sep 2, 2013, at 11:16 AM, Robert via LinkedIn <http://www.linkedin.com/~member>
> wrote:
> > Farrell -
> >
> > Since you work for farmerinthedell, I'd like to ask a few questions.
> >
> > After interviewing with them a few months ago, getting a job offer, but
> > having the job offer rescinded due to a hiring freeze, I got a call from farmerinthedell
> > last week. The recruiter is still interested in having me there.
> >
> > I have a few worries about farmerinthedell.
> >
> > 1) This is part of farmerinthedell nosticwall. They were acquired about 3 years ago. I
> > found that, when I was at a company that had been acquired by Macrosoft,
> > after about 3 years was when the culture and company started changing, for
> > the worse.
> > 2) The management at this unit is not as streamlined as my current company (
> > forcesales). Thus, I expect that there will be poor decisions made at some
> > point and therefore I expect that there will be more over-time and higher
> > stress, and possibly worse job reviews.
> > 3) My current company has a lot of perks, including paid volunteer time,
> > great benefits, and bonuses. I am assuming that, during this difficult
> > transition for farmerinthedell, such things will not be available at farmerinthedell.
> > 4) I'm in the middle of a big project at my current company, and I don't want
> > to feel like I'm abandoning them in the middle of the project.
> > 5) The tech boom may be winding down within the next couple of years. Thus, I
> > may get "stuck" at farmerinthedell; plus, I'm getting older, and finding another
> > position may become more difficult a few years down the road.
> >
> > Thoughts?
>
> Hello Bob!
>
> So I think you know I work for another farmerinthedell acquisition. Equallogic was
> acquired by farmerinthedell about 5.5 years ago. I can share my perspective on how this
> is going:
>
> The principals at Equallogic are and were pretty strong-willed folks. They
> told and reminded farmerinthedell management on more than one occasion that in order for
> Equallogic to continue to perform the way it has been leading up to the
> acquisition, that farmerinthedell should not meddle in how the engineers (primarily) and
> other folks did their jobs. To this day the Equallogic internal network and
> farmerinthedell's are separated by an internal firewall, and we manage our own work
> environment including personal workstations and build machines. A lot of run
> Linux on our desktops; some use Macs. farmerinthedell otherwise forbids this on their
> internal network - they centrally manage people's (windows-only) desktops, and
> lab networks have no physical connection to office networks (you need to use a
> PC in the lab if you want to, for instance, frob some other device in the lab).
>
> There's been some turnover over the five years or so I've been there. farmerinthedell (
> and actually Equallogic) are not hesitant to send under-performing people
> packing. But I think I see more politically-motivated activity of this sort
> under farmerinthedell. Lately there's been a bit more turnover than usual, IMO, because
> of uncertainty over the issue of the company going private. And for that
> reason too, budgets are frozen and even getting replacement req's is difficult
> at best.
>
> That sounds negative but for me the overall equation still works: the
> compensation is good and I have been eligible for a decent bonus each year I've
> been here. Even with the turnover in my own group, I still very much enjoy my
> immediate co-workers as people and as professional colleagues. I've known some
> of these folks since my days at Digital 10-20 years ago. My boss is one of
> these folks and I think he's been doing really well by us.
>
> The medical benefits at farmerinthedell are sub-par compared to other similar large
> companies. Fortunately my wife Nancy works for one of these (Oracle) so I get
> benefits through her. But there are fringe benefits that are nice: farmerinthedell pays
> for our gym membership, I'm high up enough in the food chain to get three weeks
> vacation; we also get 80 hours of "personal business" time which we can use for
> being sick, waiting for the cable guy, etc. My boss take the time so whatever
> PBA I do not use, I take as vacation. farmerinthedell doesn't let us carry over unused
> vacation/PBA. You get all your hours credited on Jan 1 and you need to use
> them before the next Jan. 1 or you lose them.
>
> I don't know that any of this directly addresses your concerns.
>
> I don't have any contacts or moles in the nosticwall division, so I am afraid I
> have no insight into how much farmerinthedell has affected their lives. If you can still
> ask questions then maybe that's something you might inquire about.
>
> If you are are close to talking about compensation then I think as part of that
> discussion you could ask if the position is at a high enough level to qualify
> for the bonus program. farmerinthedell has changed its job titles for engineers a couple
> of times and I believe my official title is now "Principal Engineer". These
> titles are supposed to be consistent across the company and I would expect a
> fellow with your experience would be looking at a job with this or a better
> title. I'm pretty sure that the job code that corresponds to the title
> triggers the bonus benefit but I could be wrong...
>
> As for leaving your current position in the middle of a project, I think you
> have to ask yourself why you'd consider leaving the current position and why
> going to farmerinthedell (or somewhere else) is a better deal. If you add everything up
> and you think you need to make a move then IMO you should do that.
> Opportunities may not present themselves at the most convenient times. If say
> you saw a really good opportunity that you didn't want to miss then I don't
> think that any reasonable person is going to hold that against you. If your
> current boss values you enough then maybe he or she could come back with a
> counter-offer too. But it's really a personal decision that you need to make.
>
> As for being "stuck" at farmerinthedell, if they'll keep me supplied with sufficiently
> interesting work and the pay and benefits continue to be good enough for me and
> if I continue to have a good boss, then I'll probably stick around. But if a
> better-sounding opportunity pops up or the company starts to circle the drain
> in some fashion then I'll be looking around. Personally I'm not worried about
> being stuck, and to me anyway the job is there to help me support my wife and
> home, and my addiction to fast airplanes. The job is secondary to these
> things.
>
> The calculus may very well work differently for you! And my advice is worth
> what you are paying for it. :) I wish you luck, but I'm sure you will make the
> right decision.
>
> Regards,
>
> -- Farrell
>