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Re: NYT Used to Report Delegate Count as if It Was Voters Who Mattered  (fwd)
- To: noelle
- Subject: Re: NYT Used to Report Delegate Count as if It Was Voters Who Mattered  (fwd)
- From: robert <http://dummy.us.eu.org/robert>
- Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2016 20:03:56 -0800
- Keywords: my-Oakland-voicemail-number
Well, Sanders better win overwhelmingly.  Otherwise, people will get all
confused and just accept Clinton as the presumed winner.
 > From: Noelle <noelle>
 > Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2016 18:08:20 -0800 (PST)
 >
 >  > From: [** utf-8 charset **] FAIR<http://www.fair.org/~fair>
 >  > Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 01:12:29 +0000
 >  > 
 >  > New York Times delegate graphic. Note that not only are superdelegates added 
 >  > into pledged delegates as though they were the same thing, but the graphic 
 >  > includes Clinton’s Nevada victory twice–mistakenly giving the 
 >  > impression that she’s won 50 percent more contests than she has.
 >  > After Bernie Sanders lost the Nevada caucuses to Hillary Clinton, 47 percent 
 >  > to 53 percent, the New York Times (1/21/16) declared the 2016 primary race 
 >  > all but over:
 >  > 
 >  > Senator Bernie Sanders vowed on Sunday to fight on after losing the Nevada 
 >  > caucuses, predicting that he would pull off a historic political upset by 
 >  > this summerâ??s party convention.
 >  > But the often overlooked delegate count in the Democratic primary shows Mr. 
 >  > Sanders slipping significantly behind Hillary Clinton in the race for the 
 >  > nomination, and the odds of his overtaking her growing increasingly remote.
 >  > Mrs. Clinton has 502 delegates to Mr. Sandersâ??s 70; 2,383 are needed to 
 >  > win the nomination. These numbers include delegates won in state contests 
 >  > and superdelegates, who can support any candidate.
 >  > 
 >  > At the end of the tenth paragraph, the Times‘ Patrick Healy includes 
 >  > some information relevant to the question of whether Sanders is &#
 >  > 8220;slipping significantly behind” Clinton:
 >  > 
 >  > A New York Times analysis found that Mrs. Clinton and Mr. Sanders are tied 
 >  > in the pledged delegate count, at 51 each.
 >  > 
 >  > In other words, as far as voters are concerned, Sanders and Clinton are 
 >  > exactly tied so far. It’s only when you count the intentions of 
 >  > superdelegatesâ??party insiders who by virtue of their position get to weigh 
 >  > in on the nomineeâ??that Clinton has any sort of delegate lead, 
 >  > insurmountable or otherwise.
 >  > There are good reasons to treat the pledged delegate count as the delegate 
 >  > count. For one thing, the unpledged superdelegates can only indicate who 
 >  > they intend to vote for, which is not necessarily who they will actually 
 >  > vote for; they can and in the past have changed their minds. Counting them 
 >  > the same as pledged delegates is a bit like counting delegates from states 
 >  > that haven’t voted yet because voters in those states tell pollsters 
 >  > they intend to vote for one candidate or the other. They may or may not feel 
 >  > differently when the time comes.
 >  > Further, it’s doubtful that superdelegates would choose to overturn 
 >  > the will of Democratic voters to pick a nominee that they had rejected in 
 >  > the voting booth; that seems like an ideal strategy for keeping Democrats 
 >  > home on Election Day, not only giving up control of the White House butâ??
 >  > perhaps more importantly to superdelegates, many of whom are in Congressâ??
 >  > also putting otherwise safe legislative seats in jeopardy. As Daily Kos 
 >  > blogger Tausendberg (8/30/15) put it last year:
 >  > If, in 2016, the Democratic base was told that their opinion had been 
 >  > overridden and made irrelevant, the psychological impact would be so 
 >  > catastrophic on Election Day 2016 that we would need to make up new words to 
 >  > describe it.
 >  > Finally, one could argue that media outlets should emphasize the delegate 
 >  > count that reflects the will of the people, rather than an alternative count 
 >  > that disguises that will, because election coverage is supposed to be about 
 >  > facilitating democracy, right?
 >  > Arguments like these must have been persuasive to the New York Times at some 
 >  > point, because in 2008â??the last time there was a contested Democratic 
 >  > primaryâ??the Times did the count the other way, treating the count of 
 >  > pledged delegates chosen by voters as the real count. As the Times‘ 
 >  > Patrick Healy put it in a February 2008 news article (2/7/08), “The 
 >  > Times counts only delegates that have been officially selected and are bound 
 >  > by their preferences.” (That’s the same Patrick Healy who now 
 >  > puts the pledged delegate count at the end of the tenth paragraph.)
 >  > This approach affected how the Times covered the 2008 race, as when the 
 >  > paper’s Adam Nagourney (2/14/08) reported after primaries in Virginia, 
 >  > Maryland and DC:
 >  > 
 >  > Senator Barack Obama emerged from Tuesday’s primaries leading Senator 
 >  > Hillary Rodham Clinton by more than 100 delegates, a small but significant 
 >  > advantage that Democrats said would be difficult for Mrs. Clinton to make up 
 >  > in the remaining contests in the presidential nomination battle.
 >  > 
 >  > Note that Obama’s critical 100-delegate lead was in pledged delegates; 
 >  > that was apparently considered so obvious that it went without saying. The 
 >  > Times rightly noted that only after voters had had their say would 
 >  > superdelegates’ preferences come into play:
 >  > 
 >  > Neither candidate is expected to win the 2,025 pledged delegates needed to 
 >  > claim the nomination by the time the voting ends in June. But Mr. Obama&#
 >  > 8217;s campaign began making a case in earnest on Wednesday that if he 
 >  > maintained his edge in delegates won in primaries and caucuses, he would 
 >  > have the strongest claim to the backing of the 796 elected Democrats and 
 >  > party leaders known as superdelegates who are free to vote as they choose 
 >  > and who now stand to determine the outcome.
 >  > 
 >  > At that time, whether superdelegates had the right to make a choice 
 >  > independent of what voters wanted was an open questionâ??with Clinton and 
 >  > Obama taking opposite sides:
 >  > 
 >  > Mrs. Clinton’s aides said the delegates should make their decision 
 >  > based on who they thought would be the stronger candidate and president. Mr. 
 >  > Obama argues that they should follow the will of the Democratic Party as 
 >  > expressed in the primary and caucusesâ??meaning the candidate with the most 
 >  > delegates from the voting.
 >  > 
 >  > Of course, in 2008, it was the Times‘ stated view (1/25/08) that the 
 >  > Democrats had “two powerful main contenders” who “would 
 >  > both help restore Americaâ??s global image…. On the major issues, 
 >  > there is no real gulf separating the two.” So while the paper endorsed 
 >  > Clinton over Obama, it was safe to leave the decision in the hands of the 
 >  > voters.
 >  > This year, the Times (1/30/16) endorsed Clinton over an opponent who is &#
 >  > 8220;a self-described Democratic Socialist,” who “does not have 
 >  > the breadth of experience or policy ideas that Mrs. Clinton offers,” 
 >  > and whose plans “to break up the banks and to start all over on 
 >  > healthcare reform…arenâ??t realistic.” This time around, then, 
 >  > the favored candidate could use a little help by including her establishment 
 >  > supporters in the count alongside delegates chosen by votersâ??so you might 
 >  > call attention to the “often overlooked delegate count” to  
 >  > portray her chances of being beaten as “growing increasingly remote.&#
 >  > 8221;
 >  > 
 >  > Jim Naureckas is the editor of FAIR.org. Follow him on Twitter at 
 >  > @JNaureckas.
 >  > 
 >  > You can send a message to the New York Times at http://www.nytimes.com/~letters, or 
 >  > write to (outgoing) public editor Margaret Sullivan at http://www.nytimes.com/~public ;(
 >  > Twitter:@NYTimes or @Sulliview). Please remember that respectful 
 >  > communication is the most effective.
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