The thing that bothered me most about the presentation from John Fraker is the thing about "not paying as much tax as possible". I know that, annually, we do this, but it's sad that we want to do this because of government policies and because "we're looking out for ourselves". I started thinking about capitalism like a jigsaw puzzle with interlocking pieces. You can pull out a piece (you can resist and drop out from the system), but the rest remains and you cannot pull it apart; the only way to pull it all apart is to "smash" it all from below. But, of course, there's nothing to prevent participants from reconstructing it later on. The question is how do you manufacture an entirely different puzzle? > From: robert <http://dummy.us.eu.org/robert> > Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2017 07:09:44 -0700 > > OK. I'll work from home on Wed. > > > From: Noelle <noelle> > > Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2017 20:33:24 -0700 (PDT) > > > > > From: "http://www.ainerfraker.com/~john" <http://www.ainerfraker.com/~john> > > > Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2017 18:22:33 +0000 > > > > > > Ok, how about Wednesday 11/1 at 2pm? We can meet in our Los Gatos or > > > Almaden office, which works best for you?