Re: A must read on Esalen

[robert <http://dummy.us.eu.org/robert>]

Did you send this article to my mom?

 > From: heather Howard <http://www.gmail.com/~hhoward40>
 > Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2019 23:53:48 -0700
 >
 > Yeah it really seems like the tech detox overshadowed the history of Esalen.   
 > I do agree with the boutique feel of 1440.
 > 
 > I will leave my car near you and fly to San Diego tomorrow.
 > 
 > > On Aug 23, 2019, at 6:23 PM, Noelle <http://dummy.us.eu.org/noelleg>  wrote:
 > > 
 > > and these are not ponderosa pines at Esalen...but anyway, I do agree 
 > > with author's critiques of the tech bros.Kind of like Corey Pein's 
 > > book "Live Work Work Work Die". If going to Esalen & 1440 
 > > helps them reform the technodystopia I'm fine with that. The 1440 as 
 > > the boutique hotel analogy was amusing.
 > > When I was a work study participant at Esalen in 1993  there was one 
 > > of my 
 > > classmates Bill  who was an artist and he ended up staying at Esalen 
 > > for years. He created the Art Barn which is still there. But when Esalen 
 > > started working on being more fiscally sound they got rid of people 
 > > like Bill. Well, I don't know what they can do, they have to get 
 > > people who will pay and keep the place going. Recently I got an 
 > > email from Friends of Esalen saying they didn't want us to 
 > > contribute what we wanted like before at $60+, they now want 
 > > $120/yr. You 
 > > still can get preference to stay there if they have extra room.
 > > Another time I was at Esalen the author of the book about it that 
 > > was briefly mentioned in article, Jeffrey Kripal, was there and 
 > > talked about researching that book. It's worth reading to understand 
 > > the place. I've met a lot of interesting 
 > > people there and have had some of the best experiences of my life 
 > > there. I wish the article author(which it looks like it will be part 
 > > of his upcoming book) would take a longer digital detox at Esalen 
 > > and enjoy it more. 
 > > 
 > >> On Fri, 23 Aug 2019, Noelle wrote:
 > >> 
 > >> I didn't read it all yet, but author has the usual East coast bias. 
 > >> and those are 
 > >> not pine groves, I think he should correct it to redwood groves, though they 
 > >> 
 > >> do have Monterey pines on the Esalen property.And I doubt there are 
 > >> fireflies in Ca.The New Yorker's fact checker did not do a 
 > >> good job.
 > >> as far as the important stuff, I'll get back to you after I take 
 > >> time to read it for real.
 > >> 
 > >>> On Fri, 23 Aug 2019, Heather Howard wrote:
 > >>> I think you’d both find this as interesting (if not more) than I did. 
 > >>> Multiversity 1440 is also mentioned.
 > >>> 
 > >>> https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/08/26/silicon-valleys-crisis-of-conscience