Re: Fwd: About Planet of the Humans and Climate Change (fwd)

[Noelle <noelle>]

 > From: Olga Mandrussow <http://www.gmail.com/~mandrussow>
 > Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 14:50:03 -0700
 > 
 > Noelle,
 > 
 > I did not contact 350BayArea.org!  They must have heard from others, or
 > maybe saw it themselves.
 > 
 > I agree with your rebuttal.
 > 
 > Olga
 > 
 > On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 2:48 PM Noelle <http://dummy.us.eu.org/noelleg> wrote:
 > > I really did not like Emily Atkin's critique.
 > > I did not think the overpopulation part of film was light, in fact,
 > > there was really not much detail about what the filmmaker's ideal
 > > way to address overpopulation, so how come everyone is jumping to
 > > the conclusion that he is for abusive population control measures?
 > >
 > > Again, not the perfect film, but I still hope that it will create
 > > serious discussions. Thanks for writing to 350 Bay Area.
 > >
 > > On Wed, 29 Apr 2020, Olga Mandrussow wrote:
 > >  > FYI
 > >  >
 > >  > ---------- Forwarded message ---------
 > >  > From: Laura Neish <http://www.350bayarea.org/~info>
 > >  > Date: Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 12:15 PM
 > >  > Subject: About Planet of the Humans and Climate Change
 > >  > To: Olga Mandrussow <http://www.gmail.com/~mandrussow>
 > >  >
 > >  > Good afternoon Olga,
 > >  > 
 > >  > There is a lot of concern out there about issues raised by the
 > >  > Planet of the Humans documentary, and many eloquent rebuttals,
 > >  > to which we have provided links below. Here are some key
 > >  > takeaways:
 > >  >    
 > >  > - Most *climate and other environmental groups have long
 > >  >    rejected energy generation from biomass* as not being part
 > >  >    of a just transition to clean energy. Not just because
 > >  >    there are better solutions, but because *of course* big
 > >  >    corporate interests are promoting super irresponsible ways
 > >  >    of going about it. Besides, we really need to stop setting
 > >  >    things on fire.  Watch Burned <https://350bayarea.nationbuilder.com/r?u=HtTWIX2J6xu7JgpyFsSvmzMd3Bx7QvWcZuzbd5Z4VOs&e=ea10f30fb62dc059fa1dd71d0efa3ae4&utm_source=350bayarea&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=covid_5&n=1>
 > >  >    to find out more.
 > >  > - Yes, lifestyles and consumption choices will need to
 > >  >    change. *We can’t just rely on a switch to clean
 > >  >    energy solutions*, we need to dig deep and make the
 > >  >    necessary cultural changes to enable a lot less
 > >  >    consumption, a lot more efficiency, and a built in
 > >  >    insistence on circular economies.
 > >  >    Again, most environmental groups advocate for collective
 > >  >    action and reject the notion that personal change is
 > >  >    sufficient.
 > >  > - Still, *wind and solar are much cleaner solutions than
 > >  >    fossil fuels*, especially if we are smart about it. Many of
 > >  >    the claims made by POTH about the efficiency of wind and
 > >  >    solar are demonstrably false. This review
 > >  >    <https://350bayarea.nationbuilder.com/r?u=39OpnUvHa8tDprvTpHsJOyYLzlZhPg4uCfbWvCIx5Gs0dsDiBIG6ggS3kZUMB80Suxu71_TiqTYF-6pBO3lz5VrW7mR_tZ4CqGLZttvvkDigLHyNaxD3_cZR53DrTxSTnvW6uzuvJEuUb3-ePKdWiA&e=ea10f30fb62dc059fa1dd71d0efa3ae4&utm_source=350bayarea&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=covid_5&n=2>
 > >  >    does a great job debunking many of the specific POTH
 > >  >    claims.
 > >  > - *When Breitbart embraces a documentary, it is a powerful
 > >  >    signal*. The fossil fuel industry has been waging an
 > >  >    effective PR campaign for more than a century (listen to
 > >  >    the Drilled podcast
 > >  >    <https://350bayarea.nationbuilder.com/r?u=zA8hGV0kKf17gWwJT2gjeQA9phHw4ofcMHXeaxF3gzjjxtY8rwTmzBisTOsTITOc&e=ea10f30fb62dc059fa1dd71d0efa3ae4&utm_source=350bayarea&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=covid_5&n=3
 > >  >    it’s not surprising that the cultural elements
 > >  >    instilled by that campaign have infiltrated this particular
 > >  >    treatment.
 > >  > - *Talking about overpopulation lightly is irresponsible
 > >  >    and frankly* creepy. Reproductive rights and improved
 > >  >    education options for girls and women is an important human
 > >  >    right. But a bunch of old white men in this film lecturing
 > >  >    the world about overpopulation is just wrong.
 > >  >    350.org is not funded
 > >  >    <https://350bayarea.nationbuilder.com/r?u=p8qboc8p4UY3jne2Mnnnp_qvYrW5hhrZG42N-AqCULBuSu_K8e64IXogf0RxahsfKCbsKM9AQIGlF4p7mcB9JQ&e=ea10f30fb62dc059fa1dd71d0efa3ae4&utm_source=350bayarea&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=covid_5&n=4>
 > >  >    by corporations. It’s also worth noting that 350
 > >  >    Bay Area is not the same entity as 350.org; we are
 > >  >    completely separate, set our own agenda, raise our own
 > >  >    operating funds, and have our own governance structures. We
 > >  >    work closely with 350.org, support their initiatives, and
 > >  >    have a great deal of respect for the global organization
 > >  >    and the individuals working for and with them. In order for
 > >  >    a local group to use 350 in its name, it does agree to work
 > >  >    on climate issues and to be good allies in the work.
 > >  > 
 > >  > The Heated newsletter by Emily Atkin is worth signing up for
 > >  > in general, and her response to the documentary
 > >  > <https://350bayarea.nationbuilder.com/r?u=4b4HJRwQb5APRofusJBZFyWTlELW9KqqIPUsrsRhf7smjxtFvAr1hQreY9Yy2bxH&e=ea10f30fb62dc059fa1dd71d0efa3ae4&utm_source=350bayarea&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=covid_5&n=5>
 > > > is definitely worth a read. We are perplexed that Michael Moore
 > >  > is associated with this documentary, and strongly suggest more
 > >  > than a spoon full of skepticism be applied.
 > >  >
 > >  > Laura Neish, Executive Director and the team