> From: Noelle <noelle> > Date: Mon, 10 May 2021 17:05:30 -0700 (PDT) > > at Wilbur I read the book about Red Army Faction in W Germany in the > 1970s by Margrit Schiller who became a political prisoner and they > thought killing government officials and industrialists was a good > thing, however, the State cracked down on them even more and used > psychological methods on the political prisoners to break up the > radical groups. well we did see a couple of films about this group > already(documentaries and docudramas?) > the armed resistance against the Staat ultimately failed Do you mean? https://dvd.netflix.com/Movie/Black-Book/70061859 In any case, I don't think Ted (nor I) are advocating killing people. Just not respecting or even destroying property. But, again, without the backing of a convincing ideological basis, wanton destruction won't sway anybody. > On Sat, 8 May 2021, robert wrote: > > Really good points. If property rights is part and parcel of the system > > being attacked by the left, then why respect property rights? On the > > other hand, I'm not sure that destroying property without an ideological > > base will be unlikely to win any followers. > > > > I agree with the bigger point that attacking the person or attacking the > > property without also reforming the system that both produced the person > > and the property is a vacuous act.