I guess the question is: what changed? Why were we "all in this together" before and now we're not? Did the regiment of the pandemic and quarantine just wear down people enough so that people went back to "looking out for #1"? Did we revert back to a social darwinism status quo ante? > From: heather Howard <http://www.gmail.com/~hhoward40> > Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2023 10:57:26 -0700 > > I don’t think it’s endemic yet, not with more variants coming. I’m > sorry, but dropping mask mandates in healthcare settings where: > > a) there are more sick people > b)there are immune-compromised and elderly people > c) workers that don’t themselves want to be exposed and/or could be > contagious > > -makes ZERO sense (despite deaf people). I think when doctors/nurses, etc. > interact individually with patients in separate rooms, then they can make the > decision to un-mask safely if they feel they want to communicate. For example, > I met my therapist unmasked because she does not see many patients in person. > We both felt comfortable. > > In my Kaiser pharmacy, at least three pharmacy workers told me they’d > continue to mask and that they were angry about the elimination of the mandate. > > I meant to add that there are all sorts of other illnesses that can also be > transmitted in healthcare settings. Who wants to get sick? > > > On Apr 22, 2023, at 10:17 AM, Noelle <http://dummy.us.eu.org/noelleg> wrote: > > > > On Sat, 22 Apr 2023, robert wrote: > > > >> But, is it endemic for people with serious underlying medical conditions, > >> like asthma? Seems like we're losing the "we're all in this together" > >> communal attitude. > > > > that was before there were vaccines.As Death Panel people said "vax > > and forget it" > > > >> > >>> From: Noelle <http://dummy.us.eu.org/noelleg> > >>> Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2023 06:26:40 -0700 (PDT) > >>> > >>> I was reading an academic paper about how mask mandates are not > >>> needed in healthcare settings...unless there is an outbreak. > >>> They cited masks are hard for deaf people, it creates a barrier > >>> between practitioner and patient, that we are in endemic phase.