> From: Noelle <noelle> > Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2020 11:00:26 -0800 (PST) > > so should there be a vegan submovement to eschew almond eating and > drinking in milk??? are you ready to lead it? Ready to establish the Ethical Vegans meetup? > On Thu, 24 Dec 2020, robert wrote: > > > From: Noelle <noelle> > > > Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2020 07:27:08 -0800 (PST) > > > > > > :( > > > https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/jan/07/honeybees-deaths-almonds-hives-aoe?utm_term=eef04efb4308933507ea88cb634df72d&utm_campaign=GuardianTodayUS&utm_source=esp&utm_medium=Email&CMP=GTUS_email > > > > This sorta comes back to those series in Monthly Review: are bees, in the > > eyes of Marx, exploited workers (as "natural resources") or not? I think > > they have to be. Is it possible for humans to have such a light touch on > > planet that it can be completely restored? > > > > "Planet of the Humans" seems to suggest reducing the population, but > > people, including those guys on Owls at Dawn, don't want to hear that.